tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3796540515860610284.post878658107132088725..comments2023-11-05T04:23:04.714-08:00Comments on RyallTime: On the ProwlChris Ryallhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08993328521515328509noreply@blogger.comBlogger44125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3796540515860610284.post-13071120986080441502010-03-01T05:59:33.875-08:002010-03-01T05:59:33.875-08:00cop-out also copout ( ) n. Slang A failure to fulf...cop-out also copout ( ) n. Slang A failure to fulfill a commitment or responsibility or to face a difficulty squarely.<br /><br />I am not 'copping out'. It's you people who are using the term cop-out that are doing it. I just don't agree with your opinion(s), and many of the criticms leveled against IDW are personal preference in terms of story points (in examples like Prowl in the ongoing). I don't have as big a problem with the issues leveled against AHM, as it is clear the writer did things in story that reflected his personal preference and not necessarily what the characters would do in a given circumstance, but hey...it was his story. I didn't like certain aspects of AHM, and I stated my grievances, but that pretty much was the end of it. Droning on and on about it and just not moving on and letting the new material speak for itself simply never occured to me...but maybe I just don't expect 'perfection'. It's not a cop-out to treat the company that puts out the material charitably if I actually enjoy the material for what it is. I guess everybody isn't capable of that.<br /><br />To the poster who pulled out LSTOW, do you really want to use that as your example of clemency on being accused of being an 'unpleasable fanbase'? Really? <br /><br />Is anyone here blind enough to think that whatever Nick Roche (and Mr. James Roberts) came up with wouldn't be instantly championed by the TF community after SL: Kup and AHM 15? It is well deserved, but it's certainly no suprise it would hit all the fanboy buttons. It's written specificially for old-school diehards like us. Detour even says he or she is 'totally gay for anything Nick Roche can write (Last Stand of the Wreckers is easily my favorite IDW G1 piece yet).'<br /><br /><br />I like how you are totally willing to make me out as the enemy (by telling me i'm copping out rather than just disagreeing with me) because I actually LIKE what IDW is doing and decided to speak up about it. To me, you all are just stuck on your mostly negative opinions because you WANT to be, historically. You say 'we want great TF stories, and would love them if they were great, but these aren't it'. So what is, then? Because I've been reading these stories since I was a little kid, and these are by far the overall best TF stories ever produced, in any medium. It is not and will never be 'great literature'. The subject matter simply doesn't support it. However, within that 'limitation', some thoroughly enjoyable stories have been told since IDW took up the license, but the complaining has been here all the time.<br /><br />On the other hand, I complete agree with Detour when he says 'But good art is useless in comics unless it has a good story to go with it.'<br /><br />Truer words, man, truer words.Melhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18202284530332676287noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3796540515860610284.post-15971003723217092682010-02-28T16:41:45.098-08:002010-02-28T16:41:45.098-08:00I love your art, EJ....
But good art is useless i...I love your art, EJ....<br /><br />But good art is useless in comics unless it has a good story to go with it.Detourhttp://tfwiki.netnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3796540515860610284.post-63698724975506604642010-02-27T12:25:15.037-08:002010-02-27T12:25:15.037-08:00*chuckles and pats*
Well, I have to say your art ...*chuckles and pats*<br /><br />Well, I have to say your art alone will likely get me to pick this up anyway, EJ. I miss having you on the art regularly, though I've no doubt you're busy with your wee ones.Jeysiehttp://jeysie.deviantart.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3796540515860610284.post-20614688357998386292010-02-27T10:50:06.792-08:002010-02-27T10:50:06.792-08:00and there I thought there were 40 comments welcomi...and there I thought there were 40 comments welcoming me back. ;)Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10983570803610864371noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3796540515860610284.post-19791493154577279252010-02-26T14:26:28.643-08:002010-02-26T14:26:28.643-08:00"Please nothing. It's not an unfair asses..."Please nothing. It's not an unfair assessment to call many of the people who choose to post their thoughts about IDW's Transformers an unpleasable fanbase, since they simply never seem to be pleased."<br /><br />You mean the unpleaseable fanbase currently loving the heck out of Last Stand of the Wreckers, and promoting the mini in their sigs, webpages, and on the Wiki? The unpleaseable fanbase that loved the Allspark Almanac and Animated in general? The unpleaseable fanbase that's been lauding the recent TFCC fiction?<br /><br />Yes, we're so unpleaseable that we tend to band together in near-unanimous praise for every bit of really awesome TF storytelling we get.<br /><br />I'm with Detour: It's a inaccurate cop-out to dismiss legitimate criticism as us being "unpleaseable".Jeysiehttp://jeysie.deviantart.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3796540515860610284.post-65489057838168355072010-02-26T09:33:41.997-08:002010-02-26T09:33:41.997-08:00Mel, I posted this over on IDW's board, but it...Mel, I posted this over on IDW's board, but it seems pretty relevant to your post. Just let me preface this with the suggestion that your perception might be do to the fact that people generally *don't complain* if they're happy with a product.<br /><br /><br /><br />I like Simon Furman. I like E.J. Su. I like Nick Roche, Guido Guidi, Chris Mowry, Alex Milne, Marcelo Matere, Marty Isenberg, Emiliano Santalucia, Dario Brizuela, Casey Coller, Robby Musso, Andrew Griffith, Dan Khanna, Andrew Wildman, Boo, and Klaus Scherwinski.<br /><br />I like good writing. I like consistent characterization. I like stories that build logically on what's come before. I like characters capable of expressing emotions. I like concurrently running stories that compliment rather than contradict each other. I like it when a continuity I've grown invested in is treated with respect. If liking all these things makes me a 'hater', then so be it.<br /><br />I've been following this series for over 4 years, I wouldn't still be here if I didn't enjoy some aspect of it. I know they're capable of producing better material. I WANT them to produce better material. Burying your head in the sand and dismissing the readership as 'unpleasable' when they don't like material as genuinely substandard as Continuum doesn't help anyone.Cattleprodnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3796540515860610284.post-85607519063992321582010-02-26T05:28:22.894-08:002010-02-26T05:28:22.894-08:00It's such a major cop-out for people to outrig...It's such a major cop-out for people to outright dismiss criticism as being "an unpleasable fanbase". Please.<br /><br />Please nothing. It's not an unfair assessment to call many of the people who choose to post their thoughts about IDW's Transformers an unpleasable fanbase, since they simply never seem to be pleased. The term is self-explanatory. No one is 'dismissing' criticizm here, though. I just don't happen to share the opinion of the majority of posters here. It is fine to criticize, and believe me, I'm not in love with everything IDW has put out...rather, I realize they are doing their level best, and we get this stuff in a monthly format (pertaining to criticisms of the ongoing) so some details have to wait to be explained.<br /><br />Many of the posts above treat their criticisms as hard fact, when they are merely opinions. And you know what opinions are like, mine included. I merely wanted to get mine in there, to show that not EVERYONE feels the way you guys seem to feel. Dissenters tend to be more vocal than supporters, and I took my chance to break that particular jinx.Melhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18202284530332676287noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3796540515860610284.post-53299650572878532372010-02-25T16:49:54.867-08:002010-02-25T16:49:54.867-08:00Sorry to butt in again. I just wanted to lend supp...Sorry to butt in again. I just wanted to lend support to this part of Detour's last post:<br /><br />"The problem isn't a variety of art styles. I love EJ's art, I love Nick's art, I love Guido's art... they all have different styles."<br /><br />Again, no doubt you won't agree with the position, Chris, but please understand that it's been of great concern to a lot of us that the 'company' line (ie. what you've said and others at IDW have said) appears to completely ignore the difference between style and character model.<br /><br />I really don't think anyone objects to a variety of styles. But in the past, EJ would draw Don's and Nick's designs, Don draw EJ's and Nick draw pretty much everyone else's. Design change was a plot point - something to pay attention to.<br /><br />I, for one, just don't understand why that approach was abandoned. All the TF artists seemed to do a great job mixing their own style with other artists' designs. Did they complain? Was it a headache to manage? I'd be really interested to know the reason for the switch.Jonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3796540515860610284.post-40226949192766065062010-02-25T16:36:48.161-08:002010-02-25T16:36:48.161-08:00Chris, again...
"art styles won't mesh as...Chris, again...<br />"art styles won't mesh as well as people would like"<br /><br />The problem isn't a variety of art styles. I love EJ's art, I love Nick's art, I love Guido's art... they all have different styles.<br /><br />The problem is the <i>character models</i> are being dramatically changed. While I don't like Don's new Sneerformer art style, it wouldn't be so bad if he and Chee would work from the same character models. Back in the old days Geoff Senior, Andy Wildman and Jose Delbo all had very different art styles... but they still worked from the same character models.<br />Because, again, Blurr went from having an Earth car mode in the ongoing to having a Cybertronian car mode in the Bumblebee mini.Detourhttp://tfwiki.netnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3796540515860610284.post-47408793399367654982010-02-25T15:21:08.399-08:002010-02-25T15:21:08.399-08:00Ryall: "But look at the comments here--I post...Ryall: "But look at the comments here--I post a few nice pieces of E.J.'s art and the overwhelming negativity, from Feikki saying E.J.'s great work looks like "a friggin' toy""<br /><br />I knew I should've written a longer (and slightly more sugar coated) post... Instead of being as a whining-nothing-satisfies-me-raving-fanboy. I tried to just say that I myself like much more seeing Transformers drawn as the reallife vehicles they're trying to imitate. I didn't mean to bash on E.J. personally. Since I hate it also when Don Fig does it...<br /><br />For me the most exciting thing in the Transformers is the "Robots in Disguise" aspect. I'd love to see more hiding TF's in the middle of people. I'd love to see this "disguise" and "alt-mode" stuff used more innovatively and rich. It's just interesting to see and imagine Transformers interacting and coping among us on the Earth. Space operas like Strombringer have different interesting aspects. The bigger the battle the better there, no worries if Tf's don't have real world non toy looking altmodes there.<br /><br />I don't understand what is the point in drawing into comic book vehicles that look like toys that try to look like real word vehicles. Ok, so do understand the point. It's selling these friggin toys to people... But what makes you think real looking cars and military vehicles wouldn't do the same trick.<br /><br />I've had this problem ever since I saw Don Figueroa's art in DW's Generation 1 vol.3. It's not aimed to E.J. only. I like very much both these guys' art! But I wished they draw cars not toys.<br /><br />Cheers.<br /><br />P.S.Optimus is trukk not toy! ;)Feikkihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17472396725459834418noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3796540515860610284.post-17207350676138781732010-02-25T12:03:34.354-08:002010-02-25T12:03:34.354-08:00Chris, just a few brief points, if you find time t...Chris, just a few brief points, if you find time to read them:<br /><br />"But look at the comments here--I post a few nice pieces of E.J.'s art and the overwhelming negativity ... I never quite get why comments are always as contentious as they are."<br /><br />The eruption of comments on this thread is, I would postulate, purely down to your comments in the post, which I, among others, found unnecessarily derisive. Certainly that was all I was responding to.<br /><br />"Do you really think fans want these books to succeed more than those of us who've tied our fates to them?"<br /><br />I don't think anyone believes this. What people find themselves thinking, perhaps, is that your strategy for success relies more on focusing on the accompanying publicity than knuckling down on the quality. This is how they might interpret relaunching a title with different writers in a way that harms the existing storyline.<br /><br />I've no doubt you would fiercely contest that but I think it's important you get a clearer picture of the POV you're fighting against.<br /><br />"The rancor about Prowl, and the misconstruing of Andy's words in that interview, and the opinions already being set before the Spotlight even arrives ..."<br /><br />Again I make the point about tarring everyone with the same brush and your conflating 'assumptions' and 'opinions already being set' with speculation.<br /><br />Let me put this to you: there are plenty of threads that speculate, sometimes emotively, about what will happen to a particular character in a story, or where the plot will go. Are you equally concerned about these 'erroneous assumptions'? It's simply human to try to construe beyond the limits of one's knowledge.<br /><br />"It's delving deeper into Prowl's actions and psyche, so things you don't think are in character now will make sense."<br /><br />Two points: first of all you, while I'm sure this is unintentional, you seem to be admitting here that as things stand, things don't make sense. Semantics maybe, but that might be telling.<br /><br />More importantly, please understand that the real 'rancour', as you put it, comes from the idea that however well this delves into Prowl's psyche, if the end result is that Prowl is transformed from his AHM15 portrayal to a more, shall we say, 'clean' figure, that seems like wasted potential. Just that *possibility* (without need of an assumption) worries some people.<br /><br />Final point, in the hope of reaching an understanding: the language sometimes used in confusing, partly because it's informed by emotion, but I think what is generally criticised is errors of judgement. No one thinks you're all callous or scheming or workshy of anything like that. It's just sometimes fans feel a particular series of decisions (say, the ones Andy made when composing Continuum) are really bad calls and have a tough time reconciling this with the idea that someone is a reliable custodian of the fiction.<br /><br />As I say, I know you would passionate disagree with this, but I just want you to better understand the nature of the negativity you perceive.<br /><br />If you've got to the end of this, thank you for reading.Jonhttp://www.drfulminare.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3796540515860610284.post-27248641374491867182010-02-25T11:32:33.523-08:002010-02-25T11:32:33.523-08:00I gotta move on and go make comics and annoy other...I gotta move on and go make comics and annoy other people now, but really, I do appreciate all your comments, good or bad. Like I say, I know you all really care about the characters and that's why you take us to task. And I do the same on my end, talk to the editors about making sure everything jibes and that we do as good as possible on everything. With monthly comics, things will occasionally slip by, or art styles won't mesh as well as people would like and any number of other things that make people pull their hair out. But we do all expend great effort in producing these books, and strive to make you, Hasbro, retailers, everyone happy with them.<br /><br />At times, that doesn't happen. And you lash out negatively. And I'm human, and react less well to biased negativity or comments about books people haven't read yet. But at the end of it, know we do read the comments and if we fall down in one issue, we pick ourselves up and move forward on the next. <br /><br />Now, let's at least all move on up the Blog to today's entry, about TF #4, so everyone can at least weigh in on a book that's actually already been released.Chris Ryallhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08993328521515328509noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3796540515860610284.post-64797438455658183562010-02-25T11:25:15.133-08:002010-02-25T11:25:15.133-08:00Sorry, I forgot the last sentence of one of the pa...Sorry, I forgot the last sentence of one of the paragraphs, it should read as follows:<br /><br />In #2, it's mentioned several times that Bumblebee's Skywatch badge is in the center of his chest, covering his Autobot symbol. Blurr specifically asks why his symbol had been replaced, and the gunshot that disable the badge is said to have hit 'dead center'. The badge itself is drawn on the corner of Bumblebee's chest, away from the center, leaving his symbol clearly visible.Cattleprodnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3796540515860610284.post-50890597742946671452010-02-25T11:22:40.610-08:002010-02-25T11:22:40.610-08:00Going back to Detour's initial post, it really...Going back to Detour's initial post, it really seems that his key point wasn't "IDW doesn't care", but "people THINK IDW doesn't care, and here's an extensive list of reasons why.<br /><br />His criticisms echoed those of many others, including myself, and simply dismissing them out of hand does little to shake our opinion. I want to know WHY you think he's wrong.<br /><br />Look at Chee's artwork in the Bumblebee series. There's been much discussion about how it doesn't mesh at all with Figueroa's work in the ongoing, but I think a far more important point is how it contradicts Zander Cannon's script itself.<br /><br />In #2, it's mentioned several times that Bumblebee's Skywatch badge is in the center of his chest, covering his Autobot symbol. Blurr specifically asks why his symbol had been replaced, and the gunshot that disable the badge is said to have hit 'dead center'.<br /><br />In #3, we meet a man with an obviously Indian name. His daughter is named Serena, and I eventually suspected that she was intended to be the IDW-verse's version of Sari. It took a while to realize this because she appeared to be quite clearly Caucasian.<br /><br />Again, these are simply two complaints amidst a sea of them. The fact that the head editor wrote something as error filled as Continuum raised a lot red flags on its own. I'd honestly like to find out that it was mistakenly published with the unedited first draft text. The notion that IDW was genuinely pleased with how it turned out fuels a lot of the fire.<br /><br />We WANT to know that IDW is aware of these problems and will avoid them in the future. I complain because I'd much prefer a product that gives me no reason to.Cattleprodnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3796540515860610284.post-59346853862780936772010-02-25T11:18:23.641-08:002010-02-25T11:18:23.641-08:00"Then you guys decided to go soft reboot and ..."Then you guys decided to go soft reboot and it all went downhill... Sales didn't go up despite AHM's hype."<br /><br />Ok, couple of things Detour since you brought the sales issue and Chris has said repeatedly he doesn't like to discuss those things.<br /><br />1. All we have to go on as fans are the ICV2 sales ESTIMATES. I can't bold that last word enough. Those figures are estimates, not actual sales numbers. So when Chris came out and said that AHM # 1 sold really well and higher than TF's comics have in some time, I believe that. I don't believe for one second that the estimates shown for AHM # 1 or the Ongoing were accurate but were underestimated. <br /><br />If you read the bottom of the ICV2 pages it also states a few things like the chart doesn't account for Diamond UK distribution which can account for significant sales AND IDW IS NOT listed as a publisher that distributes 100% of their comics through Diamond. Which means they may use other distribution outlets further accounting for the underestimates of sales of their titles.<br /><br />So only IDW knows how much they are selling. If ations series were doing great, as a buisness, why would IDW cut that short? It must have been shedding readers for IDW to have felt the need to change things up with AHM for the viability of the franchise. Because IDW can see what preorders on titles are months in advance, we can't. They can see how well the issues are tracking in stores, we can't. They can see what titles are getting more reorders than other titles, we can't.<br /><br />There's a lot we as fans don't know. Sure we can look at the ICV2estimates for an idea on how things are trending, it that. But for you to make that statement above is highly inaccurate.<br /><br />IDW just didn't flippantly decide one day, oh, let's get rid of Furmans Ations run even though it sells great and the fans love it. No, they make the best decisions they can so that they can continue to produce TF comics and we can enjoy them, which I do.<br /><br />-RKAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3796540515860610284.post-65620432822871407932010-02-25T10:35:25.856-08:002010-02-25T10:35:25.856-08:00Okay... First, the anon:
"I'd love to see...Okay... First, the anon:<br />"I'd love to see any of you edit a professional comic book without losing your minds."<br />I'll take the job. I bet I can do a better job than Schmidt.<br /><br /><br />Now, Mel...<br /><br />"Without you, I'd have no Transformers comic books to read"<br />I truly doubt without IDW, Hasbro wouldn't find another comic book company to license the title.<br /><br />"and be subjected to the constantly negative opinions of the mostly 'unpleasable fanbase'."<br />Yes. I'm unpleasable. I'm so unpleasable I loved the -ations. I'm so unpleasable I'm gay for anything Roche. I'm so unpleasable I love EJ Su, Nick Roche, Guido Guidi, Dan Khanna and all those other great IDW artists. I'm so unpleasable I never wasted my money on anything related to Transformers Animated.<br />It's such a major cop-out for people to outright dismiss criticism as being "an unpleasable fanbase". Please.<br /><br /><br />And Chris....<br />"It comes off as me being positive about what we're doing and thinking that people will like them after they read them."¨<br />Forgive the snarkiness, but didn't you people say the exact same thing about All Hail Megatron?<br /><br /><br />I'm with Jeysie. I'm here voicing my grievances because I used to love IDW's Transformers output, I was hooked from Infiltration #0.<br /><br />There were bumpy steps, sure, the Beast Wars output was severely lacking and Megatron Origin was just plain bad, but reading Furman's new take on Generation 1, coupled with side stories from Nick Roche and Klaus Scherwinski made it all so forgivable.<br /><br />Then you guys decided to go soft reboot and it all went downhill... Sales didn't go up despite AHM's hype. And now with the ongoing it's like the cycle repeating itself.<br />It really saddens me, because as I said before we used to have a great main book and mediocre "side books". <br />Ever since AHM, though, it's been the other way around.<br /><br /><br />Chris, you asked us why we take all you say so negatively? It's probably because there's been very little evidence of what you've said recently in contrast with the actions taken that would make us think positively.<br />Coda was promised to bridge the gaps between the -ations and AHM, yet the only writer who actually did that was (surprise surprise) Nick Roche. Hell, Shane McCarthy didn't fix any plot holes, he tore new ones with his awful Sunstreaker short in Coda, completely rewriting events that had happened barely a year ago.<br /><br />And Continuum was a typo-riddled mess that seemed to ignore continuity left and right. When fans took it negatively, Schmidt came out and said that it's because it "wasn't meant for us"... who was it meant for, then? And more to the point, why aren't you aiming to sell your books to your fanbase?<br />And on that point, why is it you always seem determined to drive said fanbase away to attract hypothetical "new, casual fans"? Why risk losing the loyal readers for new readers who may or may not come?<br /><br />Well I think I've gone off on a rant again so I'll stop here, but Chris, I really hope you take what I've said into consideration. I wouldn't be posting here if I wasn't a fan of IDW's Transformers.Detourhttp://tfwiki.netnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3796540515860610284.post-53144202645953052712010-02-25T09:44:35.022-08:002010-02-25T09:44:35.022-08:00Getting around to commenting on the actual content...Getting around to commenting on the actual content of the preview, I'm catching a bit of a Mike Mignola vibe/inspiration from this preview art, and love it for that. (I really like stark shadow/light patterns and precise linework, and EJ has always been Mr. Precision) Very hard-edged and moody. Plus, EJ takes the toy design and makes it look lean and mean here. Costa told a great, dark tale with morally ambiguous protagonists in Cobra, so I'm hoping we see some of that side of Mike's work in this issue. This art bodes well for it.Skidplatesnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3796540515860610284.post-19098662367032625042010-02-25T08:49:10.547-08:002010-02-25T08:49:10.547-08:00E.J.'s back!
I'm looking forward to thi...E.J.'s back! <br /><br />I'm looking forward to this issue. I've never been a fan of Prowl and maybe this will make me one.wade2501https://www.blogger.com/profile/03477594505886290505noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3796540515860610284.post-69900054955722241512010-02-25T07:57:46.147-08:002010-02-25T07:57:46.147-08:00>I gotta say, Chris... I'm kinda surprised ...>I gotta say, Chris... I'm kinda surprised and disappointed by this statement. It comes off as condescending and derisive towards the very fans who buy your books.<br /><br />Not at all. It comes off as me being positive about what we're doing and thinking that people will like them after they read them. There's been lots of pre-judging about the Prowl book and many comments from people who think it's an apology for his actions in TF #1. It's not that at all, it's an extension of why he's acting the way he's acting.<br /><br />How you somehow construe my comments here as condescending just tells me you're looking to be negative. I'm not. I love interacting with the fans when I can find the time, and I appreciate the passion for the books. I just wish everything wasn't always so picked apart like we have bad intentions or no respect for the fans. That attitude just makes no sense to me.Chris Ryallhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08993328521515328509noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3796540515860610284.post-7886473914646674272010-02-25T06:54:45.158-08:002010-02-25T06:54:45.158-08:00I guess I should have given my opinion on the book...I guess I should have given my opinion on the book itself, and some sort of overall opinion on IDW's output to date --<br /><br />You guys are doing a great job, and despite some missteps, always have. Without you, I'd have no Transformers comic books to read and be subjected to the constantly negative opinions of the mostly 'unpleasable fanbase'.<br /><br />There are people out there who read the comics and see the larger picture of what is going on, or at least can appreciate that things take time to be revealed in a monthly format, no matter how 'jarring' it may be.<br /><br />There are people out there who love what has been done with Prowl, both in AHM and after, and definitely don't want him to be a 'prick'.<br /><br />I have two versions of Prowl on my desk Oracle1984 -- Universe and World's Smallest Transformers.Melhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18202284530332676287noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3796540515860610284.post-13651508888373656102010-02-25T06:53:55.376-08:002010-02-25T06:53:55.376-08:00Well of course Prowl looks like a toy. The Transf...Well of course Prowl looks like a toy. The Transformers are based off toys. <br /><br />I wonder if someone said this back when. "Oh my god did you see how they drew everyone in Marvels #1. They all look like the toys! I'm never buying this again. Waaaaaahhhhh."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3796540515860610284.post-63717576179024614282010-02-25T06:27:57.323-08:002010-02-25T06:27:57.323-08:00Looking forward to this!!!
The return of EJ Su --...Looking forward to this!!!<br /><br />The return of EJ Su -- yes!<br /><br />The return of Spotlights -- yes!<br /><br />A whole issue devoted entirely to a treasured character -- yes!<br /><br />Love the Furman/Roche version of Prowl!<br /><br />Love the Michael Bell/Sunbow version of Prowl!<br /><br />Do I have two versions sitting on my desk as I type -- er, well, actually no, but you get the idea.<br /><br />But seriously, I can't wait to see what Costa does with all this. His work on G.I. Joe has been great -- I don't see how he can miss (at least in the eyes of those who come with an open mind). <br /><br />And EJ's art, as always, looks great.Oracle1984noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3796540515860610284.post-53081116094429060682010-02-25T06:03:16.741-08:002010-02-25T06:03:16.741-08:00"The only person here 'treating someone l..."The only person here 'treating someone like an enemy' here Jeysie is you."<br /><br />If you consider giving praise and support to the IDW things I'm happy with, and giving constructive criticism about the things I'm not--because I'd love to have everything from IDW be something I'm happy with--as "treating someone like the enemy", then I really miss the Daniel who used to actually be intelligent and wise about people.<br /><br />If I hated IDW, I wouldn't waste my time saying anything to begin with. Instead I'm trying to point out <i>why</i> many of us are being critical, and why Ryall and Schmidt are coming off as not caring even if they actually don't mean to, so they can not keep giving the wrong impressions.<br /><br />I think Sorohan expressed my feelings on the matter best here. I can't think of anyone--even the "meanie wiki people"--who are "hating" on IDW just to be haters. We all crave good Transformers comics. We would be totally happy for IDW to deliver them to us, and I can't think of anyone who wouldn't be happy if they got to be able to heap praise on IDW's comics all the time the way they do with other top-notch TF offerings. But we're currently unhappy because we feel like IDW is currently not delivering, and they feel like they keep dismissing us when we try to say what things we'd like to see fixed or see more of.<br /><br />Especially since the majority of the issues aren't "Trukk not munky!!"-type superficial criticisms. Instead it's often about things like consistent characterization/believable changes, acknowledgement of continuity, proper buildup of changes and mysteries, and other good writing principles. It's just not a matter of unpleaseable hardcore fans here, unless you think only hardcore fans appreciate good writing.<br /><br />I mean, I wouldn't even consider myself a hardcore fan anyway. I didn't grow up with Transformers. What little advanced/obscure knowledge I have I often learned second-hand from the wiki. Last Stand of the Wreckers is supposedly the "hardcore fans" mini, and I admit I don't know about 80% of the characters as more than just names, and much of the little hardcore refs fly over my head. Yet I'm currently loving it anyway, because Roche and Roberts have been building up the characters in the mini itself, telling me everything I need to know to understand what's currently going on, and giving little hints to upcoming mysteries.<br /><br />If I got that sort of quality story-telling from IDW all of the time, I'd absolutely happily fork over my money. And Roche, Mowry, Hutch, Su, etc. will tell you I give the creators plenty of praise about the things they're being kick-ass at.<br /><br />So I say again, we're not the enemy. We're fickle and blunt and have wildly different superficial tastes we disagree on, yes. But we almost always agree on being won over by good writing no matter the superficial details (look at how many people love Animated <i>despite</i> the art style or Beast Wars <i>despite</i> munky instead of trukk, etc.), and are happy to support people giving it to us. We'd all love for IDW to be that company all the time.Jeysiehttp://jeysie.deviantart.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3796540515860610284.post-89773185066960706622010-02-25T05:12:05.073-08:002010-02-25T05:12:05.073-08:00You transformers people are insane. Buy the books ...You transformers people are insane. Buy the books or don't buy them. Ranting isn't going to change the plans of a national publisher. Get a life.<br /><br />I'd love to see any of you edit a professional comic book without losing your minds.<br /><br />And as far as the artists or writers go, they DO CARE about the comics, but they don't care about your bullshit complaints.<br /><br /><br />Cheers chumps!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3796540515860610284.post-57370267065192046132010-02-25T02:03:45.011-08:002010-02-25T02:03:45.011-08:00"I was reading some of the online scuttlebutt...<b>"I was reading some of the online scuttlebutt about this coming Spotlight issue, and the number of erroneous assumptions about what it is, what it means, and why we're doing it was impressive even for the Transformers boards. The nice thing about that is knowing how many "pleasantly surprised" responses we'll see after people read this one."</b><br /><br />I gotta say, Chris... I'm kinda surprised and disappointed by this statement. It comes off as condescending and derisive towards the very fans who buy your books.<br /><br />While I understand that it can be frustrating that the fandom makes incorrect assumptions about the comics... these sorts of statements aren't helpful.<br /><br />You haven't explained what kind of erroneous statements the fandom has made -- or why they're wrong. So this just feels like baiting. <br /><br />I understand -- you're trying to reassure us that the comic is more than we think it is. But the way you're doing it feels really negative and condescending.<br /><br />This same negativity towards the fandom has been expressed by a lot of other IDW personalities talking to the media, or on public forums -- and frankly I find it frustrating. I understand how hard it can be to face the criticism that the Transformers fandom can level at you -- but taking your little stabs back at us is not a very professional tone.<br /><br />This tone is slowly building a sense of 'us and them', where the fandom feels like IDW hates them, so they should hate IDW. It's completely unreasonable -- but the more that IDW representatives talk about how the fandom is wrong, or the fandom doesn't understand, or the fandom is emotional the more frustrated we become -- and the more willing we become (as Detour did here) to point fingers at specific people.<br /><br />I'll put it plainly. We buy your comics out of a loyalty to the Transformers brand, not out of loyalty to IDW. I think you should keep this in mind when communicating with the fandom.<br /><br />--Andrew Sorohan<br />http://www.townsvilletale.com.au/<br />(In the fandom I'm known as Boltax/Jhiaxus)Andrew Sorohanhttp://www.townsvilletale.com.aunoreply@blogger.com